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It's because nowadays I find there seems to be some people who basically want the intense light output you normally get from a $1000 HiD system for their lowbeams and just feel uncomfortable with anything less than that. The reason I say this is because I'm nearing 50, wear glasses, and have badly deteriorated night vision. On top of that I live in a rural area so most of my driving is on pitch dark unlit country highways and roads, with frequent deer crossings. With all that in mind you would think I would be at the top of the list of people uncomfortable with the OEM lights but that's not the case with me. I actually find them to provide decent lighting.

But there's also people with much better vision than me who don't. So I would chalk this up to being a case of people's personal comfort level, and not necessarily a case of whether the OEM lights are sufficient or not. Everyone has differing comfort levels when it comes to night driving. For those types of drivers, I would absolutely recommend they invest in a full-on HiD kit rather than just slightly brighter bulbs because I doubt they'd feel comfortable in anything less than that. Those bulbs only average about a year lifespan and they're expensive so over 5 years you're almost halfway to a much brighter HiD retrofit setup anyway in cost.
I'm not sure where you got 1000 dollars for a set of HID, On my 2014 I got a set of HID 55watts for 34.00us on EBAY and they lasted until I sold the truck a week ago. The institute for highway safety rates headlights performance an every new cars and rate this car marginal with the halogen and acceptable with HIDs. It's important to note that HID must be installed in "projector" headlights and not reflectors as the beam pattern has no cutoff and will blind on coming cars, but with no ill effet with projector types. With the cost of LED and HID at almost the same as halogens the argument is starting to make less sense. There is an argument for bulb color though which is very important. I'll keep that for later.
I was referring to the full retroshop kits people install from popular vendors like this
http://shop.retroshop.us As far as I know you can't just replace a halogen headlamp assembly for an HiD kit for a few bucks. You can shave some off by going with cheaper kits but Jeremy at Retroshop is pretty much the king of quality for that stuff on truck forums but you pay for it. If you can show me how to replace the factory halogen projectors for a real HiD setup for $34 I'm all ears, please let us know. Maybe CUV's are different and he only deals with pickups but I can't see a good quality shop that does CUV's dropping from $1000 to $34
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I talked with an Osram customer service rep a while back.
they told me the "Silver Star Ultra" was the brightest bulb!
I had put in the ZXE and they burned out very quickly!
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I talked with an Osram customer service rep a while back.
they told me the "Silver Star Ultra" was the brightest bulb!
I had put in the ZXE and they burned out very quickly!
Interesting!
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I talked with an Osram customer service rep a while back.
they told me the "Silver Star Ultra" was the brightest bulb!
I had put in the ZXE and they burned out very quickly!
my experiences with silverstars was a short life. however this is hard to avoid. The failure mechanism of filament light bulbs is high temperature creep. to get brighter light, you need to run it hotter, so it creeps and fails faster.

i did have a set of PIAAs, they were bright and lasted for many many years.

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[QUOTE=roadshow;850153]I was referring to the full retroshop kits people install from popular vendors like this
Retro Shop Online Store As far as I know you can't just replace a halogen headlamp assembly for an HiD kit for a few bucks. You can shave some off by going with cheaper kits but Jeremy at Retroshop is pretty much the king of quality for that stuff on truck forums but you pay for it. If you can show me how to replace the factory halogen projectors for a real HiD setup for $34 I'm all ears, please let us know. Maybe CUV's are different and he only deals with pickups but I can't see a good quality shop that does CUV's dropping from $1000 to $34[/QUOTE

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I'll be changing them this week end, I'll post some picks
Ok cool, post links to where you got all the parts as well please if possible

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I immediately switched to Silver Star Ultra as soon I took delivery. I have used them in the Explorer for years. I have the ZXE in the Focus and they are a very white light. For my eyes, I don't see any better with the ZXE and when the ZXE need replacing, I am going with the Silver Star Ultra for the longer life. It is a real hassle to change bulbs in the Focus. Sometimes it is easier to remove the entire headlight assembly to do it. The Escape is a breeze. All cars should be like the Escape.

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I immediately switched to Silver Star Ultra as soon I took delivery. I have used them in the Explorer for years. I have the ZXE in the Focus and they are a very white light. For my eyes, I don't see any better with the ZXE and when the ZXE need replacing, I am going with the Silver Star Ultra for the longer life. It is a real hassle to change bulbs in the Focus. Sometimes it is easier to remove the entire headlight assembly to do it. The Escape is a breeze. All cars should be like the Escape.
I had some kind of Silverstar in my RAM when I traded it in but I can't remember which ones. One of the brighter ones, might've been ultras. Don't feel bad, the RAM headlight change is a massive **** to do! You either have to remove part of the grille or you can come in through the wheel well with the tire off lol. If Gak2014 reports back with a cheap HiD upgrade for the halogen projectors I might look into that, but I'm pretty happy with the factory lights right now, the RAM factory halogens were the worst I've ever encountered. The thing about bulbs is their output degrades over time so I'm sure I'll be doing some kind of upgrade in about a year from now since I'm new.

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I'm sorry for the late response. I want to thank everyone who took the time to reply. I went with Sylvania Ultra. I may upgrade next time but for now, these work just fine. A big relief.
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I believe I'm going to pull the trigger on these and try them out.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/172481860646

Need something to match the LED foglights I purchased earlier.
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