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AWD/4x4

I have seen on here, some escapes have AWD and some like mine is 4x4.
can someone tell me the difference?
I assume AWD - all wheels are pulling all the time, am I correct?

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The 4x4/4WD label on the Escape is misleading. There is no 4-LOW feature or manual engagement function so they call it an "intelligent 4WD". It monitors and detects slippage of the wheels some ridiculous number of times per second and then it diverts power to the other wheels as needed. On the Escape, you don't engage 4WD like the old days because it's automatic and intermittent.

I found lots of comparisons and videos/links from Google regarding the AWD vs 4WD question. There's a couple of guys on Youtube that actually demonstrate the feature in action on the Escape and I'm sure there are some links on this website about the topic but the SEARCH button will answer that better than me. The more you read up on how AWD works the more you'll ask yourself - Why didn't Ford call it AWD instead?
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I have seen on here, some escapes have AWD and some like mine is 4x4.
can someone tell me the difference?
I assume AWD - all wheels are pulling all the time, am I correct?

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Ditto what MCoupe said. In all wheel drive cars, all of the wheels could be engaged but often are not - it's a computerized on demand system.

You can even bring up the AWD graphic on your dash that shows what wheels are engaged at any given time.


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Ditto what MCoupe said. In all wheel drive cars, all of the wheels could be engaged but often are not - it's a computerized on demand system.

You can even bring up the AWD graphic on your dash that shows what wheels are engaged at any given time.
Not exactly true to state about AWD cars in general. More accurately, AWD systems vary from manufacturer to manufacturer in that they can either be engaged dynamically or possess 'true,' 'symmetrical,' and/or 'full time' characteristics like the setup found in Subarus.

With that said, I think Ford labeled their AWD characteristics in the Escape as '4WD' for traditional purposes - not to the definition of 4WD alone.
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Not exactly true to state about AWD cars in general. More accurately, AWD systems vary from manufacturer to manufacturer in that they can either be engaged dynamically or possess 'true,' 'symmetrical,' and/or 'full time' characteristics like the setup found in Subarus.

With that said, I think Ford labeled their AWD characteristics in the Escape as '4WD' for traditional purposes - not to the definition of 4WD alone.
That's interesting. For both of my Foresters, I had been told they did not have full time AWD, that it varied depending on where traction was needed. But maybe you're not saying that isn't the case, and it's just a vocabulary issue (on my part).

BTW, the place to see the graphic is under Information. You have a menu for Trip 1, Trip 2, Information and something else... Vehicle Health? If you scroll to Information and hit OK, you'll see changes on a car graphic depending on whether you're going up a hill, just rolling along, etc.


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I found it interesting that it kicked in to 50/50 front/rear when going into a roundabout in the rain. I took it back off of info because it became distracting to see that graphic as the power went back and forth.

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That's interesting. For both of my Foresters, I had been told they did not have full time AWD, that it varied depending on where traction was needed. But maybe you're not saying that isn't the case, and it's just a vocabulary issue (on my part).

BTW, the place to see the graphic is under Information. You have a menu for Trip 1, Trip 2, Information and something else... Vehicle Health? If you scroll to Information and hit OK, you'll see changes on a car graphic depending on whether you're going up a hill, just rolling along, etc.
I guess I could have been more specific, too

Check this link:
Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive | Subaru AWD

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"Almost every Subaru comes standard with Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive for better stability, efficiency and a quicker response to slippery conditions."

"Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive sends power to all wheels simultaneously for maximum traction and acceleration."

The Escape and some other CUV's and small sedans equipped with 'AWD,' feature what is called "Front-wheel-drive biased AWD" meaning the front wheels are always powered while the rears are dynamically engaged upon predetermined conditions.

Additionally, the current Subaru Foresters feature symmetrical AWD systems.

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I guess I could have been more specific, too

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"Almost every Subaru comes standard with Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive for better stability, efficiency and a quicker response to slippery conditions."

"Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive sends power to all wheels simultaneously for maximum traction and acceleration."

The Escape and some other CUV's and small sedans equipped with 'AWD,' feature what is called "Front-wheel-drive biased AWD" meaning the front wheels are always powered while the rears are dynamically engaged upon predetermined conditions.

Additionally, the current Subaru Foresters feature symmetrical AWD systems.
Ah, okay, current. My last Forester was 2003, so not current. (I still feel a little guilty abandoning it; my Subie was such a trusty, willing little SUV. Not to anthropomorphize cars or anything.)


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I found it interesting that it kicked in to 50/50 front/rear when going into a roundabout in the rain. I took it back off of info because it became distracting to see that graphic as the power went back and forth.
Yes, it's a little too interesting; I only bring it up occasionally for that reason.


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Yes, it's a little too interesting; I only bring it up occasionally for that reason.
And I would prefer to have an 'AWD/4WD' Escape, in any fashion Next time

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