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New member here. I hace a 2013 Ford Escape 2.0 L turbo SEL. Looking to find out if there is any way to increase the dry weight number. As is book states I can tow 2000 lbs. Looking at a small trailer of 1870lbs which is at the top range. Is there anything I can do to increase this weight # or do I keep looking for a lighter trailer. Any info would be great.
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I'd look for a lighter trailer.

What type of trailer do you have and is that 1870lbs loaded or is that dry weight? Also, does the trailer have brakes? Either way, it's cutting it close. For safety, if 2000lbs was my max I'd stay under 1600lbs when loaded and have brakes plus a good brake controller.

Just to add, we have a 2016 2.0L with the factory tow pack. Our pop-up is 1640lbs dry and about 2100lbs with battery, propane and other gear inside. There are 2 adults and 2 kids plus another 150lbs approx of gear inside the Escape itself. I had a Prodigy 2 brake controller with 7pin wiring done after the purchase. I'm well under the 3500lbs max and going through the Canadian Rocky mountain passes I feel safer under weight than approaching max weight.

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New member here. I hace a 2013 Ford Escape 2.0 L turbo SEL. Looking to find out if there is any way to increase the dry weight number. As is book states I can tow 2000 lbs. Looking at a small trailer of 1870lbs which is at the top range. Is there anything I can do to increase this weight # or do I keep looking for a lighter trailer. Any info would be great.
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assuming you have an aftermarket class 3 hitch. your vehicle is practically the same setup as the factory tow option. the only exception is the anti sway control and factory wiring.

so physically the vehicle with the 2.0L can tow #3500 pounds.

HOWEVER, it may not be legal, and may be against your morals, may run into warranty or insurance issues if they find out.

there is nothing anyone has be able to figure out to legally add the factory tow capability after the fact and maintain warranty etc. the best that most dealers will do is add an aftermarket hitch, but technically that is not enough, unless you find one who will put it in writing to cover your liability.

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assuming you have an aftermarket class 3 hitch. your vehicle is practically the same setup as the factory tow option. the only exception is the anti sway control and factory wiring.

so physically the vehicle with the 2.0L can tow #3500 pounds.

HOWEVER, it may not be legal, and may be against your morals, may run into warranty or insurance issues if they find out.

there is nothing anyone has be able to figure out to legally add the factory tow capability after the fact and maintain warranty etc. the best that most dealers will do is add an aftermarket hitch, but technically that is not enough, unless you find one who will put it in writing to cover your liability.

your call.
Bad Advice and very incorrect. It's all about safety, not just for you but everyone else on the road. Be accountable.

The Factory Tow Pack adds more than just the anti-sway. It comes with a Class 2 hitch (which is all thats needed), HD fan/rad, oil cooler and 4pin wiring (though Ford really should include 7pin for trailers with brakes).

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Bad Advice and very incorrect. It's all about safety, not just for you but everyone else on the road. Be accountable.

The Factory Tow Pack adds more than just the anti-sway. It comes with a Class 2 hitch (which is all thats needed), HD fan/rad, oil cooler and 4pin wiring (though Ford really should include 7pin for trailers with brakes).

Thank you for mentioning this. Let's hope the OP does not take @Thenorm bad advice to pull an unsafe weight.

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The only way to properly or legally upgrade to tow more is to get an upgraded vehicle like an Explorer or Flex with the factory tow package. Extra cooling, braking, suspension are an important parts of a towing capacity and tow package.

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Bad Advice and very incorrect. It's all about safety, not just for you but everyone else on the road. Be accountable.

The Factory Tow Pack adds more than just the anti-sway. It comes with a Class 2 hitch (which is all thats needed), HD fan/rad, oil cooler and 4pin wiring (though Ford really should include 7pin for trailers with brakes).

Where do you find such information? I see here that it's just the 4 pin wiring, receiver, and "trailer sway control." The 2013-15s definitely don't have upgraded "hardware" but maybe something changed in 16/17 that I'm unaware of. The link below is for the 2016 model and is pretty much the same each year from 2013.

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You are correct with your information @GRNDHOG . @ajuett is correct in his statement on the safety issues with ignoring Ford's towing capacity for aftermarket hitches.

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Bad Advice and very incorrect. It's all about safety, not just for you but everyone else on the road. Be accountable.

The Factory Tow Pack adds more than just the anti-sway. It comes with a Class 2 hitch (which is all thats needed), HD fan/rad, oil cooler and 4pin wiring (though Ford really should include 7pin for trailers with brakes).
bad advice?
I told him it was wrong.
I also said if he wants to be a bad boy, and knows anything about proper trailering, it is perfectly capable.

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Thank you for mentioning this. Let's hope the OP does not take @Thenorm bad advice to pull an unsafe weight.
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Where do you find such information? I see here that it's just the 4 pin wiring, receiver, and "trailer sway control." The 2013-15s definitely don't have upgraded "hardware" but maybe something changed in 16/17 that I'm unaware of. The link below is for the 2016 model and is pretty much the same each year from 2013.

https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/...cape_sep28.pdf
exactly. aftermarket is equivalent to factory, EXCEPT wiring and sway control.
Wiring is easy to fix.
lack of sway control means you need to be cognizant of tongue weight and not driving too fast for conditions.

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You are correct with your information @GRNDHOG . @ajuett is correct in his statement on the safety issues with ignoring Ford's towing capacity for aftermarket hitches.
Sway control is not some magic that makes you able to tow and additional #1500 lbs. it is a nanny aid for people who shouldn't be trailering heavy loads. it's akin to ABS or traction control. ie. not required for safe driving.


you all jump on me for posting the only logical post in this thread.


here is the data.
make your own choice on the risk.

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bad advice?
I told him it was wrong.
I also said if he wants to be a bad boy, and knows anything about proper trailering, it is perfectly capable.
What? You said it's wrong then you told him its ok to make your own choice as the vehicle is capable. I think you need sway control. LOL

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exactly. aftermarket is equivalent to factory, EXCEPT wiring and sway control.
Wiring is easy to fix.
lack of sway control means you need to be cognizant of tongue weight and not driving too fast for conditions.

Sway control is not some magic that makes you able to tow and additional #1500 lbs. it is a nanny aid for people who shouldn't be trailering heavy loads. it's akin to ABS or traction control. ie. not required for safe driving.
No, its not just the sway control and wiring harness that is different nor does it add 1500lbs more towing. As I mentioned there are more features that factor into the extra tow capabilty.

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