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Regarding stock vs modded.... I tweak everything I own (not just vehicles) in some way, shape, or form... So, I'm sure it would see some mods (probably exhaust, CAI, if needed, and likely tune at some point if budget allows). Within the first year of having the Escape, I had the stock exhaust cut off behind the 2nd cat and a 2.5" installed. Mileage went up almost 3.5 mpg just by doing that, and it honestly sounds quieter at highway speeds since it lowered the pitch of the exhaust note. Not sure how much I'd mod the Focus ST since there's things like paying for 8 kids to eat that take up a big chunk of my paycheck and it's already almost as fast as the 99 Neon RT I used to have which had a ton of mods, but I doubt I would leave it completely stock.
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of the Focus with the 1.0T?

other manufacturers have turbos too. the Honda civic sport with the 1.5T, chevy cruise 1.4T. Fiat Abarth, the subarus,

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I have a 2017 Escape with the 2.0 EB and quite enjoy it, but we really need a third vehicle pretty soon. I have two boys who will quickly have their licenses and I'm thinking about leaving the Escape at home for my wife and kids (we also have a 2016 Transit with a 3.5 EB for hauling everybody around (8 kids)) to drive to the store/school/kids' jobs. The Focus ST would be for me to commute about 25-miles each way. I do have some stop and go, which makes the manual a bit of a pain, but I can't get a Focus other than the ST with the 2.0 EB engine (and I will NOT own anything I drive here in CO that isn't forced induction). Insurance between an ST and an SE is only about $36 every 6 months, so those costs are negligible, but the price difference between a 2017 SE and 2017 ST with similar miles (and manual trans) is in the 3-5K range, so it's a steep hill to climb for that extra 100 hp and 130+ lb-ft of torque.

Any thoughts from you guys on recommendations related to the Focus or something similar that's turbo-charged with about the same performance for similar costs?
Honestly?! I’d buy a Focus Electric 😄...

I gave up one of our Escapes for a Cmax Energi as a daily and boy...haven’t I saved money!!! Over 12000 miles, I have averaged 125mpg....
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fiesta ST?
of the Focus with the 1.0T?

other manufacturers have turbos too. the Honda civic sport with the 1.5T, chevy cruise 1.4T. Fiat Abarth, the subarus,
Owned a Civic for a few years that was the most boring to drive and troublesome car I've ever had.. never will own another Honda product unless I absolutely have to. Chevy? They took the bail-out money... Nope. Same for Dodge. Pretty much something with an Ecoboost motor or a Subaru that's turbocharged.

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...commute about 25-miles each way. ...
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Honestly?! I’d buy a .... Electric
this reminds me of the way Pike Peak hillclimb is going.

Of course turbo engines are popular so that they don't lose so much hp at 14,000ft, but they are transitioning to electric, which has no losses at altitude.

this would be a viable option. with 30% derating due to winter cold, you need ~75mile range, which is achievable with the most basic electric car.

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this reminds me of the way Pike Peak hillclimb is going.

Of course turbo engines are popular so that they don't lose so much hp at 14,000ft, but they are transitioning to electric, which has no losses at altitude.

this would be a viable option. with 30% derating due to winter cold, you need ~75mile range, which is achievable with the most basic electric car.
I just have an issue with electrics in that someday those blocks of lithium cells have to be taken care of, and it just seems a lot better (to me) to melt down an aluminum block for re-purposing rather than having to deal with the toxic waste of car batteries, so I'm not going to further that nastiness. Sure, they have instant torque, which is great, but I'd just rather stick to internal combustion.

Have found a few 2016 ST's around here in the 159XX-17500 range with under 25000 miles on them, so not too bad. Would rather have a 2017, though, so I might have to wait and keep looking. Probably couldn't go wrong either way with either model year. I don't think much was changed.
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Took a 17 for a spin today and have to say that the 6 speed manual is a lot of fun in that little car. The ride is noticeably stiffer than the escape, but not jarring, thankfully. Overall i think one would be a fun commuter car.

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