2017-2019 2.0 Engine Replacement

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Mr Yeates

Discussion Starter · Oct 24, 2018

Hello all!

Car got a check engine light a few months ago. Misfire, and contributed it to bad gas since I got gas at an irregular station. Cleared code and it came back a month later. Noticed car would idle very rough for first 5 seconds after sitting for more than 8 hours (after work and in the morning).
Took it into the dealership on the 25th of September. Was told a week or so later new engine but they had to do all the Ford inspections and measurements. Was put in a rental and have heard a few times from them that they are figuring out next steps.
Just got the call today, October 24th that Ford doesn't have long blocks and will be sending them the short block with the head for replacement.
Was told the coolant was slowly leaking into a cylinder.
Car is at 41,000 miles. Anyone else seen or heard of this? Is this being handled in the correct way?
Can't believe a car with this low of mileage is getting a new engine. Any problems with only getting the short block replaced?
Not feeling super great about the replacement this soon.

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wiz043

· #2 · Oct 24, 2018

I have heard of this problem with quite a few of these cars and Ford's advice is to keep an eye on the coolant level.

If it drops substantially it could be the problem you mention. Should be a recall in my view to prevent the problem in the first place. That would probably work out cheaper for Ford too but they seem to take the attitude of 'wait and see what happens'.

murcod

· #3 · Oct 25, 2018

I'm sure there are other threads on here with the same issue and there's a service bulletin on here somewhere relating to it.

Here you go https://www.fordescape.org/forum/tsbs-recalls/106194-2-0-coolant-service-bulletin.html

AaronB79

· #4 · Nov 2, 2018

Hello! My 2017 2.0 is in the Ford Service department for the fourth time since mid-September. My Escape has a little over 27,000 mile on it. I have the FordPass app on my iPhone, and the Escape sends messages to the app when the engine light comes on. The first two times the app said "the engine has detected a misfire fault." The last two times the app said "the engine system has detected a fault." The mechanic replaced a spark plug and an ignition coil during the first visit. The second visit the service advisor said a wire had come loose on the new ignition coil and it was reattached. The third visit the service advisor informed me that the mechanic put dye in the antifreeze because he believed the head gasket might be bad. I was given the Escape back to drive until the engine light came back on, which it did four days ago. My vehicle has been in the garage ever since. When starting the vehicle, when the engine is cold, the engine idles roughly, sputters, harshly vibrates, and sounds like it is starving for fuel. Was your experience similar?

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MistyM

· #5 · Feb 13, 2020

Mr Yeates said:
Hello all!

Car got a check engine light a few months ago. Misfire, and contributed it to bad gas since I got gas at an irregular station. Cleared code and it came back a month later. Noticed car would idle very rough for first 5 seconds after sitting for more than 8 hours (after work and in the morning).
Took it into the dealership on the 25th of September. Was told a week or so later new engine but they had to do all the Ford inspections and measurements. Was put in a rental and have heard a few times from them that they are figuring out next steps.
Just got the call today, October 24th that Ford doesn't have long blocks and will be sending them the short block with the head for replacement.
Was told the coolant was slowly leaking into a cylinder.
Car is at 41,000 miles. Anyone else seen or heard of this? Is this being handled in the correct way?
Can't believe a car with this low of mileage is getting a new engine. Any problems with only getting the short block replaced?
Not feeling super great about the replacement this soon.

I also have a 2017 Ford Escape. Same issues light saying misfire 3 cylinder. Contacted Ford dealership and was told I would need a new motor they will not replace head gasket because these cars have been having this issue a lot and only putting in a new motor will fix it. Thinking about contacting Ford about this. Mine is at 113000 miles but I have only had two years, bought with 47000 miles. This should be a recall in my opinion.

Msbzyb

· #6 · Feb 14, 2020

Yep! Engine replaced at 40,000. Took them 90 days to do it. I threatened lemon law because of other issues but my state law is 18 months. Missed it by 2 weeks. Anyway, been fighting with Ford since July and have a BS settlement offer. But it releases them from future claims. Still trying to decide whether to take it or not. No issues since the engine replacement though.

HayaiKuruma

· #7 · Feb 14, 2020

MistyM said:
I also have a 2017 Ford Escape. Same issues light saying misfire 3 cylinder. Contacted Ford dealership and was told I would need a new motor they will not replace head gasket because these cars have been having this issue a lot and only putting in a new motor will fix it. Thinking about contacting Ford about this. Mine is at 113000 miles but I have only had two years, bought with 47000 miles. This should be a recall in my opinion.

So you have the 2.0 engine?.

HayaiKuruma

· #8 · Feb 14, 2020

Msbzyb said:
Yep! Engine replaced at 40,000. Took them 90 days to do it. I threatened lemon law because of other issues but my state law is 18 months. Missed it by 2 weeks. Anyway, been fighting with Ford since July and have a BS settlement offer. But it releases them from future claims. Still trying to decide whether to take it or not. No issues since the engine replacement though.

So do you have the 2.0 engine??

Msbzyb

· #9 · Feb 14, 2020 (Edited)

HayaiKuruma said:
So do you have the 2.0 engine??

just checked to be sure, yes it is 2.0 L

Dmirsik

· #10 · May 22, 2020

Msbzyb said:
Yep! Engine replaced at 40,000. Took them 90 days to do it. I threatened lemon law because of other issues but my state law is 18 months. Missed it by 2 weeks. Anyway, been fighting with Ford since July and have a BS settlement offer. But it releases them from future claims. Still trying to decide whether to take it or not. No issues since the engine replacement though.

I had my motor replaced less than a year ago while under warranty. They are telling me it needs to be done again. Who have you been talking to at Ford.

Kaladin65

· #11 · Jun 3, 2020

I have a 2017 Escape 2.0L Sport. Same problem, diagnosed at 64,698 miles on the odometer. TSB 19-2346. Long block needs replaced. Incredibly expensive repair. Ford is not covering anything. I have seen this problem on multiple websites. How can Ford get away with this again? Wasn't "wait and see" their MO on the Focus transmission issues too? I have hit a wall with Ford customer relations and my dealer. Anybody have any advice on what to do next?

Susan k

· #12 · Jun 13, 2020

Mr Yeates said:
Hello all!

Car got a check engine light a few months ago. Misfire, and contributed it to bad gas since I got gas at an irregular station. Cleared code and it came back a month later. Noticed car would idle very rough for first 5 seconds after sitting for more than 8 hours (after work and in the morning).
Took it into the dealership on the 25th of September. Was told a week or so later new engine but they had to do all the Ford inspections and measurements. Was put in a rental and have heard a few times from them that they are figuring out next steps.
Just got the call today, October 24th that Ford doesn't have long blocks and will be sending them the short block with the head for replacement.
Was told the coolant was slowly leaking into a cylinder.
Car is at 41,000 miles. Anyone else seen or heard of this? Is this being handled in the correct way?
Can't believe a car with this low of mileage is getting a new engine. Any problems with only getting the short block replaced?
Not feeling super great about the replacement this soon.

I'm having same issues. But I'm at 83000kms ... I'm in a rental. Waiting on a new motor. Mine was running rough wen it first started too . Engine light on . The coolant is going into the engine. Also my rad fan sticks on until it totally kills the battery... ( only once in awhile though) the fuse kept blowing for the windows and interior light . It was in shop 2 times for that and still not fixed ., and u no wen u stop at a red light and the car will shut off until u let off of the break pedal? Well mine wont start back up ,I have to throw it in park and turn the key over . And again that doesn't happen all the time either... I am not impressed with this car at all . I've missed so much time off work . Having to get rentals ...I mean I buy new so I wont have problems. I've had more problems,especially electrical with my 2017 escape than any car I've ever owned and back in the day I bout an ol car for $50 . That one was mint compared to this p.o.s.

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Susan k

· #13 · Jun 13, 2020

Kaladin65 said:
I have a 2017 Escape 2.0L Sport. Same problem, diagnosed at 64,698 miles on the odometer. TSB 19-2346. Long block needs replaced. Incredibly expensive repair. Ford is not covering anything. I have seen this problem on multiple websites. How can Ford get away with this again? Wasn't "wait and see" their MO on the Focus transmission issues too? I have hit a wall with Ford customer relations and my dealer. Anybody have any advice on what to do next?

There's a 100000km warranty on engine .they have to cover it . On the rest of car it's only up 60000kms. My 2017 escape is in the shop now waiting on a new engine. But so many more electrical problems aside from the engine .going by all the issues from other escape owners. It sounds to me they need afew recalls
. So many people have the exact problems .... . Too bad we couldn't all get together and sue the crap out of ford .

Kaladin65

· #14 · Jun 13, 2020

Susan k said:
There's a 100000km warranty on engine .they have to cover it . On the rest of car it's only up 60000kms. My 2017 escape is in the shop now waiting on a new engine. But so many more electrical problems aside from the engine .going by all the issues from other escape owners. It sounds to me they need afew recalls
. So many people have the exact problems .... . Too bad we couldn't all get together and sue the crap out of ford .

Unfortunately I have a 60000 mile warranty. You are talking km. Metric vs standard mix-up. Lol. But yes, I am definitely looking into legal action. If anyone hears of a new class action suit, let me know. This engine should have lasted more than 64000 miles. Rediculous.

Susan k

· #15 · Jun 13, 2020

Yes. I totally messed that up.,sorry
but still a newer car should not have all the issues that they do. Especially having to replace an engine under 100000.
If I hear anything I'll let u no . There has to be something we can do

BADone

· #16 · Jul 23, 2020

Susan k said:
I'm having same issues. But I'm at 83000kms ... I'm in a rental. Waiting on a new motor. Mine was running rough wen it first started too . Engine light on . The coolant is going into the engine. Also my rad fan sticks on until it totally kills the battery... ( only once in awhile though) the fuse kept blowing for the windows and interior light . It was in shop 2 times for that and still not fixed ., and u no wen u stop at a red light and the car will shut off until u let off of the break pedal? Well mine wont start back up ,I have to throw it in park and turn the key over . And again that doesn't happen all the time either... I am not impressed with this car at all . I've missed so much time off work . Having to get rentals ...I mean I buy new so I wont have problems. I've had more problems,especially electrical with my 2017 escape than any car I've ever owned and back in the day I bout an ol car for $50 . That one was mint compared to this p.o.s.

Hi My daughter had the same problem it was in the shop More than she used it every six months it would be in for misfire two or misfire three after the fourth time they ended up replacing the engine they should be recalling all engines once they have a problem with it once!! they know that there is a problem with the engines but hey if nobody contacts them.... it’s all about saving money she’s also had a transmission rebuilt in this SUV It was new it was a 2017 brand new vehicle bought from a Ford dealership it’s a good thing she got the five year extended warranty because she didn’t wanna have any problems as she has had problems previously with other car now This being a lease she still has 2 1/2 years so she ended up going and buying another used Honda car she can’t depend on the Ford she’ll keep it until the lease is up give it back to them good riddance never buy a Ford!!!

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Captjack6

· #17 · Jul 23, 2020

Kaladin65 said:
I have a 2017 Escape 2.0L Sport. Same problem, diagnosed at 64,698 miles on the odometer. TSB 19-2346. Long block needs replaced. Incredibly expensive repair. Ford is not covering anything. I have seen this problem on multiple websites. How can Ford get away with this again? Wasn't "wait and see" their MO on the Focus transmission issues too? I have hit a wall with Ford customer relations and my dealer. Anybody have any advice on what to do next?

I have the same problem, my vehicle is a 2017 with 81k. There are hundreds and may 1000's with the same problem . This issue started in 2015 with the 1.5 engine. Ford has continued to issue updated TSB's but will not issue a recall or repair the vehicle if it is over the warranty. This is a design defect and should be addressed regardless. I feel that they are just hoping that the problem does not surface until the warranty expires.
There is a lawyer in Mo. who is gathering clients and will start a class action suit but who knows when. I do not know how long I will be able to drive this thing. I bought a code reader and turn off the light and add fluid every few hundred miles. I was a loyal Ford owner but I doubt that I will buy another Ford product.

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Kaladin65

· #18 · Jul 23, 2020

Captjack6 said:
I have the same problem, my vehicle is a 2017 with 81k. There are hundreds and may 1000's with the same problem . This issue started in 2015 with the 1.5 engine. Ford has continued to issue updated TSB's but will not issue a recall or repair the vehicle if it is over the warranty. This is a design defect and should be addressed regardless. I feel that they are just hoping that the problem does not surface until the warranty expires.
There is a lawyer in Mo. who is gathering clients and will start a class action suit but who knows when. I do not know how long I will be able to drive this thing. I bought a code reader and turn off the light and add fluid every few hundred miles. I was a loyal Ford owner but I doubt that I will buy another Ford product.

I think it will take some viral bad publicity for anything to happen. Just like with the Focus transmission, they knew it was an issue. Still just kept pushing out the crappy cars.

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Susan k

· #19 · Jul 27, 2020

Captjack6 said:
I have the same problem, my vehicle is a 2017 with 81k. There are hundreds and may 1000's with the same problem . This issue started in 2015 with the 1.5 engine. Ford has continued to issue updated TSB's but will not issue a recall or repair the vehicle if it is over the warranty. This is a design defect and should be addressed regardless. I feel that they are just hoping that the problem does not surface until the warranty expires.
There is a lawyer in Mo. who is gathering clients and will start a class action suit but who knows when. I do not know how long I will be able to drive this thing. I bought a code reader and turn off the light and add fluid every few hundred miles. I was a loyal Ford owner but I doubt that I will buy another Ford product.

How do we contact this lawyer?

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Jerry in orlando

· #20 · Jul 28, 2020

Purchased new 2018 escape 2.0. Feb 2018. March 2019 engine failed due to coolant in the engine cylinders. Ford made warranty repair took 4 weeks . June 2020 engine failure. Coolant in the engine cylinders. Car has been at ford dealership for 6-1/2 weeks. Long block replaced at my cost of $8,388.38. So 2 and half years I will be on the third engine. Paying on a car I could not drive for 10 weeks. The 2.0 eco boost engine is defective due to its engine block design. Ford only answer to this flaw in long block engine replacement per TSB 19-2346. Sounds to me as an admission of guilt to the engine design. Ford needs to do the right thing and compensate their customers.

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