2017-2019 2.0 Engine Replacement

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Mr Yeates

Discussion Starter · Oct 24, 2018

Hello all!

Car got a check engine light a few months ago. Misfire, and contributed it to bad gas since I got gas at an irregular station. Cleared code and it came back a month later. Noticed car would idle very rough for first 5 seconds after sitting for more than 8 hours (after work and in the morning).
Took it into the dealership on the 25th of September. Was told a week or so later new engine but they had to do all the Ford inspections and measurements. Was put in a rental and have heard a few times from them that they are figuring out next steps.
Just got the call today, October 24th that Ford doesn't have long blocks and will be sending them the short block with the head for replacement.
Was told the coolant was slowly leaking into a cylinder.
Car is at 41,000 miles. Anyone else seen or heard of this? Is this being handled in the correct way?
Can't believe a car with this low of mileage is getting a new engine. Any problems with only getting the short block replaced?
Not feeling super great about the replacement this soon.

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Snowdog

· #61 · Nov 26, 2021

Jerry in orlando said:
Purchased new 2018 escape 2.0. Feb 2018. March 2019 engine failed due to coolant in the engine cylinders. Ford made warranty repair took 4 weeks . June 2020 engine failure. Coolant in the engine cylinders. Car has been at ford dealership for 6-1/2 weeks. Long block replaced at my cost of $8,388.38. So 2 and half years I will be on the third engine. Paying on a car I could not drive for 10 weeks. The 2.0 eco boost engine is defective due to its engine block design. Ford only answer to this flaw in long block engine replacement per TSB 19-2346. Sounds to me as an admission of guilt to the engine design. Ford needs to do the right thing and compensate their customers.

I have the same problem and 1 long block replacement followed by a head gasket failure/replacement. Luckily I had purchased the 100,000 mile extended warrantee with a $100.00 copay. They also updated the software to control the coolant flow to prevent reoccurrence. Apparently the software change didn’t work as the 2nd failure happened after the update.

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JiLLah

· #62 · Dec 15, 2021

MistyM said:
I also have a 2017 Ford Escape. Same issues light saying misfire 3 cylinder. Contacted Ford dealership and was told I would need a new motor they will not replace head gasket because these cars have been having this issue a lot and only putting in a new motor will fix it. Thinking about contacting Ford about this. Mine is at 113000 miles but I have only had two years, bought with 47000 miles. This should be a recall in my opinion.

Agree 100%

JiLLah

· #63 · Dec 15, 2021

Mr Yeates said:
Hello all!

Car got a check engine light a few months ago. Misfire, and contributed it to bad gas since I got gas at an irregular station. Cleared code and it came back a month later. Noticed car would idle very rough for first 5 seconds after sitting for more than 8 hours (after work and in the morning).
Took it into the dealership on the 25th of September. Was told a week or so later new engine but they had to do all the Ford inspections and measurements. Was put in a rental and have heard a few times from them that they are figuring out next steps.
Just got the call today, October 24th that Ford doesn't have long blocks and will be sending them the short block with the head for replacement.
Was told the coolant was slowly leaking into a cylinder.
Car is at 41,000 miles. Anyone else seen or heard of this? Is this being handled in the correct way?
Can't believe a car with this low of mileage is getting a new engine. Any problems with only getting the short block replaced?
Not feeling super great about the replacement this soon.

Jerry in orlando said:
Purchased new 2018 escape 2.0. Feb 2018. March 2019 engine failed due to coolant in the engine cylinders. Ford made warranty repair took 4 weeks . June 2020 engine failure. Coolant in the engine cylinders. Car has been at ford dealership for 6-1/2 weeks. Long block replaced at my cost of $8,388.38. So 2 and half years I will be on the third engine. Paying on a car I could not drive for 10 weeks. The 2.0 eco boost engine is defective due to its engine block design. Ford only answer to this flaw in long block engine replacement per TSB 19-2346. Sounds to me as an admission of guilt to the engine design. Ford needs to do the right thing and compensate their customers.

I’m being sent back and forth between Ford mechanicas and another mechanic shop who rebuilt my 2014 Ford Escape - they both said I need a new Eco Boost to fix the problem with the check engine light and leaking coolant! BUT the BAR told me that the eco boost was a part of the engine, except after I told him that Ford did not rebuild my engine - it was like the BAR guy was working for Ford, or definitely favored Ford. So does the “short block” engine rebuild include the eco boost or not? I’ve put in as about $12,000 into this stupid car already and they want me to put in another $750 for this eco
Boost part of the engine. I’m at a loss

Where are all the honest people?

JiLLah

· #64 · Dec 15, 2021

Snowdog said:
I have the same problem and 1 long block replacement followed by a head gasket failure/replacement. Luckily I had purchased the 100,000 mile extended warrantee with a $100.00 copay. They also updated the software to control the coolant flow to prevent reoccurrence. Apparently the software change didn’t work as the 2nd failure happened after the update.

That happened to me too!!!! Had to rebuild the engine and replace the transmission and it’s still leaking coolant! They say it’s the eco boost - which I’m told Is Part of the engine, but then it’s not! I can’t get a straight answer :/

ralph7up

· #65 · Dec 15, 2021

JiLLah said:
I’m being sent back and forth between Ford mechanicas and another mechanic shop who rebuilt my 2014 Ford Escape - they both said I need a new Eco Boost to fix the problem with the check engine light and leaking coolant! BUT the BAR told me that the eco boost was a part of the engine, except after I told him that Ford did not rebuild my engine - it was like the BAR guy was working for Ford, or definitely favored Ford. So does the “short block” engine rebuild include the eco boost or not? I’ve put in as about $12,000 into this stupid car already and they want me to put in another $750 for this eco
Boost part of the engine. I’m at a loss
Where are all the honest people?

By definition short block refers to the block only. Head and all other components come from original engine. Long block includes head but I am unsure if it would include ecoboost. I think it does but am unsure.

murcod

· #66 · Dec 15, 2021

JiLLah said:
I’m being sent back and forth between Ford mechanicas and another mechanic shop who rebuilt my 2014 Ford Escape - they both said I need a new Eco Boost to fix the problem with the check engine light and leaking coolant! BUT the BAR told me that the eco boost was a part of the engine, except after I told him that Ford did not rebuild my engine - it was like the BAR guy was working for Ford, or definitely favored Ford. So does the “short block” engine rebuild include the eco boost or not? I’ve put in as about $12,000 into this stupid car already and they want me to put in another $750 for this eco
Boost part of the engine. I’m at a loss
Where are all the honest people?

JiLLah said:
That happened to me too!!!! Had to rebuild the engine and replace the transmission and it’s still leaking coolant! They say it’s the eco boost - which I’m told Is Part of the engine, but then it’s not! I can’t get a straight answer :/

Welcome to the forum.

What you've stated above is a bit confusing. "EcoBoost" is simply Ford's name for their turbo charged engines- so are they saying you need an entire "long" engine? Also have you definitely got the 2.0l EcoBoost engine (as per the thread title) or the 1.6l EcoBoost?

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Gryffindor101

· #67 · Dec 16, 2021

Also, this thread is just for 2017-2019 Escapes. The 2.0 engine is different in these MY’s than the 2014 FE.

Lilly1356

· #68 · May 9, 2022

Just purchased a 2018 Escape with 55k from a Ford Dealer; had the car for literally less than 2 weeks & the check engine light came on. Immediately brought it into service & was told I have coolant leaking into my engine & my entire engine rebuilt!? Are you kidding me … the dealership sold me a lemon 🍋 & told me nothing about this issue. I’m so sad & disappointed.. luckily it’s going to be covered under warranty.. but still who’s to say this issue isn’t going to come up again. They sent me home with a 1/2 a bottle of coolant, showed me how to check it & pretty much said “good luck” until the parts come in 1-2 weeks. I refuse to drive it .. so I have a new car that has to sit in my garage until the parts come in & now I have to spend extra $$ on a after market warranty. Unbelievable that Ford is allowing this .. fully knowing this is a huge issue. I thought Ford was a reputable America made company that stood behind their products .. apparently not. They care more about their bottom line than selling a safe reliable vehicle to their consumers!

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wiz043

· #69 · May 9, 2022 (Edited)

Sadly this is a common issue which affects a small percentage of Escapes and Ford are well aware of it but the only thing they are not aware of is which particular ones will fail so I doubt the dealer intentionally sold you a lemon.
They are supposed to replace the engine with the latest designed block as that is where the fault is with your current engine allowing coolant into the cylinder head so it should not occur again if you ensure they use the latest block design.
Many posts on this here if you scroll back.
Kudos to you for getting a warranty as it is a costly exercise.

PaulOinMA

· #70 · May 9, 2022

For a few weeks' inconvenience, you end up with a 2018 with a new engine, having paid for a 2018 with 55,000 miles. Overall, on balance, you end up in a pretty good place. Hard to see that now, I know.

Would I be very upset, as you seem to be? Absolutely!

In a couple of months you'll be in a vehicle with a new engine.

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murcod

· #71 · May 10, 2022

Lilly1356 said:
now I have to spend extra $$ on a after market warranty.

So you're planning on taking out a new extended warranty? Be careful because some are basically useless unless your engine totally self destructs. Check that items like leaking gaskets are covered- otherwise you may pay more money and still not be covered.

NickSP

· #72 · May 24, 2022

Reading through this thread is depressing. Just bought a pre owned escape with the 2.0.
It does have cpo warranty till next year but I really hope I don't have to deal with this.
Is this a common occurrence?

wiz043

· #73 · May 24, 2022

NickSP said:
Reading through this thread is depressing. Just bought a pre owned escape with the 2.0.
It does have cpo warranty till next year but I really hope I don't have to deal with this.
Is this a common occurrence?

No, it is not a common issue especially with the later models. It is like every other fault with Escapes or any othér brand, you only hear about the ones with problems. The vast majority are fine.

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NickSP

· #74 · May 24, 2022

wiz043 said:
No, it is not a common issue especially with the later models. It is like every other fault with Escapes or any othér brand, you only hear about the ones with problems. The vast majority are fine.

Thanks. That's great to know. Also the CPO warranty should cover me should I ever need it. I hope.

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HayaiKuruma

· #75 · May 24, 2022

wiz043 said:
No, it is not a common issue especially with the later models. It is like every other fault with Escapes or any othér brand, you only hear about the ones with problems. The vast majority are fine.

this is not a true statement. Pretty much every Ford with slits between the cylinders is going to fail at some point below 100,000 that will necessitate a block replacement.

NickSP

· #76 · May 25, 2022

HayaiKuruma said:
this is not a true statement. Pretty much every Ford with slits between the cylinders is going to fail at some point below 100,000 that will necessitate a block replacement.

Wow.

wiz043

· #77 · May 25, 2022 (Edited)

HayaiKuruma said:
this is not a true statement. Pretty much every Ford with slits between the cylinders is going to fail at some point below 100,000 that will necessitate a block replacement.

That is drawing a long bow to say that almost all of them are going to fail. The main problems were with the earlier 1.5L and 1.6L and some 2L models. As I suggested we only hear about the ones that fail here, there are countless others that do not and apparently the newer models have the later block design.
With respect I believe you had this issue at low mileage and ended up with a new engine but that does not necessarily mean that almost all others are going to fail.

NickSP

· #78 · May 25, 2022

wiz043 said:
That is drawing a long bow to say that almost all of them are going to fail. The main problems were with the earlier 1.5L and 1.6L and some 2L models. As I suggested we only hear about the ones that fail here, there are countless others that do not and apparently the newer models have the later block design.

How do I know if the engine in my 2017 is at risk?

wiz043

· #79 · May 25, 2022 (Edited)

NickSP said:
How do I know if the engine in my 2017 is at risk?

Don't let it worry you anticipating there may be an issue. Just get the car serviced regularly and keep an eye on your coolant level. If it drops significantly take it to the dealer for investigation under warranty. This issue mainly affects the Escape engines built at the Louisville plant and the faulty 2017 + ones are in the minority according to research.
Every car has faults and there is no point in losing sleep about something that may never happen.
Just enjoy your 2017 model as I have done for the last 4 years without a single issue.

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NickSP

· #80 · May 25, 2022

wiz043 said:
Don't let it worry you anticipating there may be an issue. Just get the car serviced regularly and keep an eye on your coolant level. If it drops significantly take it to the dealer for investigation under warranty. This issue mainly effects the Escape engines built at the Louisville plant and the faulty 2017 + ones are in the minority according to research.

I bought the car pre owned and the CPO warranty remaining carries over till next June.
I love the way this car drives. Hoping for the best.

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