Just purchased 2022 Escape SE PHEV two months ago. Vehicle runs great, but I am having a concern. The battery will not charge beyond 50 % of the advertised range. (Home charge - 120v) I have double checked the Max Charge level withing the Ford App and it is set at 100%. As well, my local Ford dealership completed a software update, but to no avail. Any ideas?? Thx
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Yes, but just for 7 months, then bad sledding for the other 5 months
What I was asking is how cold is it? How cold in the garage when charging? I am going to suggest you may want to invest in a level 2 charger. Is the garage heated? Others here have indicated to warm up the car while plugged in. I don't have one of these so no first hand experience. I may consider one but stories like these make me think there is still life in the old ICE for some areas and use cases. kfh000
I have an attached garage insulated on two sides. It generally stays above zero in there except on the coldest of nights Over the course of the winter. I live on the prairies in central Canada. I did receive a call from Ford late this morning and it was suggested I reset the trip meter before each charge. They claim on occasion, the vehicle’s software will recall recent trips in the EV mode and will only charge up to those limits. My last few trips were short jaunts around town. So this afternoon I reset the meter before plugging it in and lo and behold my battery capacity is now showing a range of 50 kms (30 miles) A jump of 65%! Hopefully this is the answer. Otherwise, the vehicle runs great.
What you are seeing is not the Battery Capacity. It is just an estimated EV range miles when the battery is fully charged. As many of us joke about this so called "Guess-O-Meter", it is extremely inaccurate for predicting the future performance of the EV range. It uses the past data and current environmental factors, but it says nothing about the battery capacity.
I purchased my 2022 PHEV at the end of Nov when the temp already started to drop to below 32F. Initially I was seeing 35.5 miles for full charge EV range which was close enough to the EPA rated 38 miles. But it dropped precipitously during the colder first few months of drivings, all the way to the lowest point at 22.7 miles in beginning of the Feb when the temp was always in teens F or below at ODO ~1500 miles on the car. Since then, it has started improve as the temperature moderated. Just last week, with temp above 32F, the full EV range jumped to 57.7 miles for a full charge EV range at ODO ~2100 miles on the car.
I would not worry about the EV range displayed on the dash fluctuating wildly.
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I purchased my 2022 PHEV at the end of Nov when the temp already started to drop to below 32F. Initially I was seeing 35.5 miles for full charge EV range which was close enough to the EPA rated 38 miles. But it dropped precipitously during the colder first few months of drivings, all the way to the lowest point at 22.7 miles in beginning of the Feb when the temp was always in teens F or below at ODO ~1500 miles on the car. Since then, it has started improve as the temperature moderated. Just last week, with temp above 32F, the full EV range jumped to 57.7 miles for a full charge EV range at ODO ~2100 miles on the car.
I would not worry about the EV range displayed on the dash fluctuating wildly.
Yeah, that's about correct. I think you can also preheat with 120v L1 as well, but it deplete the battery capacity too fast, and L1 is not fast enough to replenish all the way to 100% before you leave. I never use scheduled pre-heat on my car though. My battery charging is not on schedule, and I don't usually charge it all the way to 100%. I have used remote start function to pre-heat the cabin and defrost the windows a few times in a pinch. But, if it is colder than 32F, remote starting the car starts the engine. This is true even if the charging cord is still plugged in. If your car is parked in a closed garage, you don't want to use this function.
One suggestion, turn OFF down hill braking. You see the little down hill car to the right by the gas gage. Turn it off, How do you do that you ask. You can look in the manual but it will not tell you. Go to sync settings and under driver options if I recall correctly you will find it. It saves on gas and helps to return more power during non power driving.
Not sure why you quoted me. But that is a good suggestion.
I assume the photos are from your dashboard in your post. I can see the downhill car is light up next to the gas gage.
Oh, I see what you were referring to. But in my case, the regen on down hill by turning off the hill assist has negligible effect on gas mileage or EV range. I have observed the engine brake turning on at down hill while on EV Now mode using battery, but it uses no gas. It is purely engine brake without firing. There maybe a tiny bit benefit by turning off the Hill Assist so that the engine brake does not rob the regen energy when the car is on EV Now mode, but for my case 99.99% of the EV range reduction and to some extent gas mileage reduction is temperature related issue.
Have you seen the engine braking engage when it's below freezing? And does it turn off once you reach the bottom of the hill? I thought I read it was triggering the warm up cycle for the engine afterwards, which would use gas.
Yes and Yes. When I had forced the car to drive EV Now mode without enableing engine. At least for a small numbers cases I observed, the engine brake triggered on the Energy monitor on the downhill, but no gas was used. It stopped promptly without prolonged warm-up cycle.
Plain and simply. If you keep Hill Assist turned on and it is activated your engine (ICE) will run. When the ICE is running it is using gas, Plain and simply. If you are driving in EV Now mode as I do and say you drove about 15 miles on mostly level road the ICE has been off. Then you go down hill, and Hill Assist is activated then ICE will run. Once ICE is on for the first time it must run till the engine is up to normal temperature. Depending on the outside air that could easily be 2 to 4 minutes. That means ICE is using gas for 2-4 minutes, Plain and simply. Turn it off or not your option. There are many articles about this option that tell you Turn it Off, unless you live in a very mountainous area.
It wouldn't surprise me if it's wrong, but the manual claims the engine braking done when going down hills does not use fuel.
"You could also notice that your engine continues to run instead of shutting off during extended downhill driving. The engine stays on during this engine braking but is not using any fuel."
"You could also notice that your engine continues to run instead of shutting off during extended downhill driving. The engine stays on during this engine braking but is not using any fuel."
In my car, I observed what @Golluk commented and as described in the manual. Yes, the Energy Flow on LCD was showing the engine being on due to engine braking on downhill, but it definitely did not keep running to complete the warm-up cycle as it usually does if the engine is enabled in the EV Now mode for performance. Furthermore, the EV Driving record on that segment did not show any use of gas when I observed this. So entire distance was All-Electric. I have seen this happen only a few times in a very cold day when I forced the car to engage in EV Now mode. The downhill was not long at all. Maybe only 10-20 feet of down grade on the road. I am not sure what would have happened if it was a very long stretch of down hill. In any other occasions, I have not experienced the engine fire on me on the EV Now without hitting OK for the "Press OK Enable Engine" or car decided to start the engine for system performance. But my driving samples are limited. I can try again next time I drive, but currently I am driving mostly on Hybrid mode without using the traction battery since it cost less that way. So, it maybe for a while before I get a chance to test the engine braking under EV Now mode. Certainly I will not be able to replicate my observation of running car under forced EV Now mode when it is very cold (around 5F or -15C) until next winter. The car may behave totally different when it is warm.
Is it fair to say an engine that is on even at ideal is using fuel? Also the engine is under control by the car computer. The ICE must first come up to full operating temperature before the computer will allow it to cycle on and off as the power peddle demand's HVE. How does the car engine get to full operating temperature? It burns FUEL! So when you read "it is not using any fuel" use your brain. Keep Hill Assist on if you want. Use Fuel if you want? Spend money if you want? WHY? What you are reading is how does a Hybrid Electric Vehicle work. I was responding to something that said she drives in EV Now, and I said that is how I drive. EV Now is NOT the same as Hybrid Electric Vehicle mode.
Right... All I'll say, is the manual claims when it "runs" the engine for hill braking it doesn't trigger the fuel injectors, so no fuel is used. It's just using the compression of air as resistance. I don't see any reason for this to not be the case.
Personally I have it off, as I'd rather just use regen braking, and don't have any steep hills nearby that would fill up the HVB before I got to the bottom.
Personally I have it off, as I'd rather just use regen braking, and don't have any steep hills nearby that would fill up the HVB before I got to the bottom.
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