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Who’s gonna be the first in line to do the Raptor treatment on the 2020 model?



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I like it too. I puts "sport" back into sport utility. Heck even if they don't drive it off road, people can when they want to and it is nice knowing that.

There are some issues though:
1) The picture is still airbrushed digital design. I like the smaller wheels and large all terrain tires...but in reality, I don't think that tires that big will ever fit without extensive cutting and re-fitting of the body work. The picture makes it look like the new tires and wheels will just fit right with room to spare...but this is unlikely the case given the production pictures I have seen that have an even tighter fitment from the enormous wheels with slim-sidewalled high performance tires to the edge of the wheelwells. Hey, I am all for it if the tires and wheels fit...but I think the reality may be different.
2) Aside from the smaller wheels and all terrain tires, the picture indicates extensive suspension modification (at least in the front) and either side rock scraper rails or some sort of protected middle under-protection that hangs down lower than a stock model. My strut and coil spacers are a downright easy modification compared to the the modifications I see here. That being said, I'm sure a stock F150 Raptor has "extensive" modifications too...just from the factory instead of aftermarket. I'm just saying that level of modification is not going to come cheap...and with a Bronco III/Baby Bronco on the horizon, one needs to wonder if it would be better to go for a stock one of those so everything is factory spec'd for maximum longevity and durability.
3) From what I found out about the X Tomi Design, they are clearly a German firm (and the plate on the picture is a European plate). I know many followers here are not from the US or Canada, so getting such a kit might be easier for you. From personal experience trying to deal with one lift kit maker in Germany Delta 4X4, they basically refuse to sell to America or Canada after initially offering some lift kits to American buyers. It was an export customs and likely a liability thing for them, but still their response was distasteful, basically telling me to fly to Germany to pick up a kit. This is a completely different company and hopefully they will be warm to foreign buyers or at least have dealers in the US and Canada for easier purchasing.

That all being aid, it is super cool and the graphics are the part. If the wheels and tires do fit in like that and still leave room to spare, if the suspension and frame modifications are quality made, offer easy to get replacement parts and are built for longevity and if the price is withing reach, I think this might be the magic pill Ford needed to make a CUV into an SUV again. That's what I did and it was the best thing ever on my 14'. Being able to go places, blast through snowbanks or just not get stuck in the snow or mud is why we buy 4X4's. The new Bronco III/Baby Bronco is so close though. I think at least for me, this is the first time in a long time that Ford has upcoming vehicles I am actually excited to see come out, vehicles I could see myself in. Nissan is going to modernize their Frontier pickup (not just replace it with the smaller (but good looking) Navara. Rumor has it that they will spin off one or two body-on frame based SUV's from it too. It really is ironic that just as fast as like all the manufacturers killed their true SUV's at once, they are all going back into the fray at once too (except GM, which made de-trucking their motto!). The next few years will be interesting for sure. And I truly think we will wind up with more efficient SUV's than back 10 or so years ago too. That's literally all manufacturers had to do to keep buyers interested. Ford has deployed turbos in Rangers too. Smaller turbo engines are plenty powerful and lots of fun to drive too. These really are good times and the Escape Raptor is a sign of many good things to come.
 

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Thoughts on the 2020 Ford Escape

I am actually a 2010 Escape Hybrid owner that has up till now been very disappointed that Ford had Dropped the Hybrid Escape...So disappointed that I was very close to ordering a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV this Spring when I got word of the 2020 return of the Hybrid and even the new PHEV. Having been exclusively a FORD owner for over 50 years now. I am elated that I can likely NOT step over to an Outlander. Even though I may have a few issues with the NEW 2020 Escape...I'm probably all in on going after an ESCAPE PHEV....even though I wish it was going to be an AWD instead of just a Front Wheel Drive......We live in serious Snow Country and have always had 4WD or AWD vehicles. It's going to be a tough decision to go for a PHEV in Front Wheel drive vs a Hybrid in AWD.....

We have a Solar Home with 6KW of Panels and I'd really love to Charge the PHEV from my Solar System.

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It's starting to grow on me. Which is often the case with a major re-design.

I sure hope they have a better offering with this new 1.5 three cylinder than the past 1.6 and 1.5 EcoBoost turbo engines which have had MORE than their share of reliability issues.

I've got a 2018 Escape with the 2.5 liter engine. Tried and true; very few issues are ever reported. Is it quick? Nope. Not what I bought it for. Just looking for reliable point A to point B transportation and was out the door with my 2018 for $20K. Good value for the dollar. I had zero issues with my 2014 Escape 2.5 and zero issues so far with my 2018 Escape 2.5. Not everyone wants a turbo. Too bad that the 2.5 engine isn't an option with the 2020. You had a good long run 2.5!!
 

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The prices on the 2020 Escape just came out and WOW..The basic S starts about $26k.. with a 3 cyl. engine,,runs up to 40K.+.. the 2.0 turbo I have will start in mid 30's I believe....I ordered mine, SE 2.0, and out the door final tab, 24.7k....Wont see those prices no more..
 

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The prices on the 2020 Escape just came out and WOW..The basic S starts about $26k.. with a 3 cyl. engine,,runs up to 40K.+.. the 2.0 turbo I have will start in mid 30's I believe....I ordered mine, SE 2.0, and out the door final tab, 24.7k....Wont see those prices no more..
I paid 27.7K USD for my '17 SE, 2.0 L and cold weather package, otherwise pretty bare bones. No roof rails, no SYNC3, and no Sync Connect. Prefer the cloth seats over leather too, more comfortable in both summer and winter than leather which I've had in 2 of my cars.
I am not totally sold on the new styling. This might be my first and last Ford.
 

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I paid 27.7K USD for my '17 SE, 2.0 L and cold weather package, otherwise pretty bare bones. No roof rails, no SYNC3, and no Sync Connect. Prefer the cloth seats over leather too, more comfortable in both summer and winter than leather which I've had in 2 of my cars.
I am not totally sold on the new styling. This might be my first and last Ford.
Me too on the style,,, rear seats don't fold as flat as mine, don't care for interior dash design or the front grill...Cant see getting a 3 cylinder that shuts down to 2??.. the 2.5 reg. engine isn't available anymore, I wanted that in my SE, but couldnt get that one..
 

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Like the color but that’s it. Dont like the styling but I do like what they did with the interiors.
Like the styling but don't like the color yet also like what they did with the interiors.

Either way it's a good time to be in the market for a CUV.
 

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I never liked the styling on my 2017 Escape, but love the vehicle none-the-less. Given the changes, I might start liking the looks of mine a bit more...
 

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In person, the 2020’s don’t look very nice, in my opinion. They look like they got cheapened in both size and materials. I like my 2016 Escape because when I purchased it, it was slightly bigger than the competitors and it had a faster engine than the competitors. For 2020, gone is that SUV look and gone is the size. The 2020 Escapes remind me of old Ford Escorts from my childhood. It doesn’t look very modern and looks like it was designed 15 years ago by Mazda. Just my 2 cents. I thought it might be a nice replacement for my 2016 Escape, but I gotta say Ford is going to lose a customer this time around. I think they made a huge mistake.
 

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We are now driving our second Escape and really like it, Today I drove a 2020 Escape SEL and did not even leave the parking lot before I realized I would not be able to drive the vehicle 20 miles without major back pain! There is a bar across the rear of the bottom cushion that pressed against my hip joints. Serious problem for me, and I can not believe that I will be the only person that notices this!
 

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We are now driving our second Escape and really like it, Today I drove a 2020 Escape SEL and did not even leave the parking lot before I realized I would not be able to drive the vehicle 20 miles without major back pain! There is a bar across the rear of the bottom cushion that pressed against my hip joints. Serious problem for me, and I can not believe that I will be the only person that notices this!
Do you mean the lumbar support? That's adjustable.
 

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I recently purchased 2020 Escape SEL after having a 2006 and 2017 Escape. These were not an issue for seat comfort. I too noticed this firmness on the rear of the driver’s seat that is uncomfortable. Actually there is a raised firm section on the seat sides I’m not a fan of also. Short drives would have me squirming in the seat to try to get comfortable. I have since played endlessly with the power seat adjustments and found a setting that seems tolerable.
I should mention its not the lumbar adjustment. That is in the seat back and not an issue.
 
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