[murcod]

Welcome to the forum.

even placing a 2 year warranty on parts and service

Does that mean you'll effectively be getting "short changed" on your drive train warranty- isn't it 5 yrs in the US?

 

[murcod]

My interpretation is that the new parts used in the engine replacement, crankcase, block, head etc, are covered under the 2/24, while the original components of the powertrain, transaxle, PDU, rear axle etc, not part of the long block remain covered under the balance of the new car 5/60 warranty.

If it's done as part of a warranty repair you should (at a minimum) get the same coverage as the rest of the drivetrain.

 

[murcod]

Ford: "Probably a short block."

What's the situation when Ford do that? I know most (probably all) dealers in my area wouldn't have the facilities nor probably techs with the required experience to do an engine rebuild. Are they getting external companies to do the engine rebuilds?

 

[murcod]

The head bolt broke while being torqued to spec on the new engine- it wasn't on the old engine that failed. Hopefully they fitted a new head gasket after (apparently) partially torquing the head down?

 

[murcod]

I haven't received a loaner or rental. They said it needs approval from Ford. Purchased new April 2019, at dealer of purchase for repair.

You'd be hoping for better support given you bought it new from that dealer!

PS: Welcome to the forum.

 

[murcod]

Yes possibly some air that hadn't been bled out. Keep an eye on it.

Different engine, but my coolant level doesn't seem to change much with a hot or cold engine. It makes sense as the entire system is pressurised- it's a reservoir, not an over flow tank like older vehicles had. (Where expanded coolant could exit via the pressurised cap into the overflow tank and later be sucked back into the coolant system.)

 

[murcod]

Welcome to the forum.

Called the service tech and he said the new engine is just recalibrating and it's fine. I don't know much about vehicles and how they work, does this sound like a plausible explanation to you?

No.

Do you have a OBD2 scanner you can check codes with? Keep an eye on the coolant level.

 

[murcod]

I was more wondering if technical/mechanical auto people on here thought that might be a plausible explanation that the service tech gave to me today about the engine recalibration itself. Sounds like you are saying that is not a plausible explanation.

The check engine light only comes on if something important to the engine's operation is not running within set parameters. There are other codes that can be logged in the background and do not light up the "check engine"- I'd think if the engine was "recalibrating itself" it should have been logged at that lower level. I would also have expected them to get you back in so they could check the code.

You did the right thing by contacting them. I'd keep a log of everything (what work has been done, who you called regarding the "check engine" and what they said) and keep an eye on all the engine's fluid levels. Do a bit of reading up on ForScan, all you need is a laptop (or phone) and a Ford compatible OBD2 interface to use it. The program itself is free. Using that you can check the logged codes yourself.

 

[murcod]

Does any of that make sense about the fuel injector?

Let them do the work, it may well fix it.

 

[murcod]

So over 5PSI pressure loss in 5hrs seems to be the coolant system test pass/ fail parameter.

 

[murcod]

I was told I HAVE TO PAY TO FIX...over$5000.

Welcome to the forum.

Were you given a reason why it wouldn't be covered under warranty?

 

[murcod]

why wouldn't they have seen coolant in the oil if it was leaking...

In all of the cases I've read the head gasket coolant leaks are into the cylinder bores and the coolant gets "burnt off" in the combustion cycle. So there would be no evidence of contaminated oil.

You might see condensation out the exhaust when the engine is well and truly warmed up and a clean/ odd coloured spark plug in the affected cylinder. They do a "leak down test" and pressurise the cooling system with the engine off to check for leaks. It's discussed elsewhere, but they look for a drop in pressure indicating the coolant is leaking internally (if there are no external leaks present.)

 

[murcod]

Welcome to the forum. I think most people seem to get a 12mth warranty? If you haven't, have a read through all the posts in this thread.

 

[murcod]

Question, how many people have checked the boost pressure the 1.5l EcoBoost 4 cylinder runs? (Via ForScan etc.)

I think I've seen 29PSI mentioned once on here and the same on the UK Kuga forums. I'm no automotive engineer, but if correct that seems really high?

Part of the reason I'm asking is Toyota have released a 1.6l, 3 cylinder turbo which outputs 200kW. It's running 10.5:1 compression but only 17PSI boost to get that 200kW/ 370Nm. Granted the EcoBoost probably has flatter power and torque curves.

 

[murcod]

I wouldn't choose a turbo charged engine over non-turbo for any reason. I just don't see them lasting as long regardless of boost.

Maybe true back in the 1980's. I'll soon be onto my 4th turbocharged vehicle since 1990, with no complaints from me on any of them. Two were higly modified and driven hard- back in my younger days.

Ford just seem to have had some serious design/ development issues with certain EcoBoost engine models. Just my thoughts.

 

[murcod]

apparently Ford has done nothing to fix the original problem. Probably cheaper to fix the bad engines than to replace their tooling.

Read through the posts on here. Changes to the engine block have been reported along with photos of the changed area.

 

[murcod]

I have seen no definitive answer on this.

Did Ford revise the 1.5L ecoboost at all?

Or is my new engine going to start consuming coolant just like the last one did? This is the 4 cyl 1.5L, the one known for head sealing problems, has a TSB out on it. Not the new 3 cyl 1.5L. I got to thinking about it and I’m wondering if I have a ticking time bomb. If I wanted to be doing a...

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2018 25K 1.5L EB Coolant loss

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[murcod]

I've created a new thread for the 2.5l engine example that was originally posted in here. Otherwise it gets a bit too confusing as to what engine is being discussed.

2.5l engine Escape coolant low?

I did my research, this is our 4th Escape, not one bit of trouble out of the first 3. Bought a 2017 2.5L Escape S 1/6/2021 with 36,069 miles on it. We drove 2 hours to pick up the car, my husband failed to check under the hood before we headed home. Today, 1/9 he lifted the hood and the coolant...

www.fordescape.org

 

[murcod]

A forum for people with 2.5L engines has been set up but I can't find it. Good luck.

Try reading two posts above your last post:

I've created a new thread for the 2.5l engine example that was originally posted in here. Otherwise it gets a bit too confusing as to what engine is being discussed.

2.5l engine Escape coolant low?

I did my research, this is our 4th Escape, not one bit of trouble out of the first 3. Bought a 2017 2.5L Escape S 1/6/2021 with 36,069 miles on it. We drove 2 hours to pick up the car, my husband failed to check under the hood before we headed home. Today, 1/9 he lifted the hood and the coolant...

www.fordescape.org

I think if you have over a 1.6L engine you are on the wrong forum, at least that's what I was told.

The poster said a 2017 model. The 1.6l EcoBoost was replaced quite a few years before that with the subject 1.5l EcoBoost.

PS: If everyone added their vehicle model into their own Profile it would save so much confusion over what vehicle is being talked about!

 

[murcod]

Ford will not give me any additional warranty above my 100,000KM limited. What happens if the short block continues to have issues?

I would have thought they'd warrant just the engine repairs for x months / x km? It shouldn't be limited by the overall vehicle km/ new vehicle warranty.