Just a couple weeks ago after 22,000 miles and a little more than a year of owning my 2018 Escape 1.5L Ecoboost the CEL came on indicating a misfire on #2 cylinder. Thinking it would be a simple coil replacement I scheduled a waiting appointment with my dealership. I was surprised to hear they found coolant leaking in #2 and I would have to bring it back the following week for a more detailed troubleshooting. Long story short they ended up pulling the engine and found areas of indentation on the block. They are going to replace the engine under warranty. The short block is on back order and they are seeing if they can get a long block instead. I found one other post with the exact same problem down to the short block back order situation on another site. In searching the internet for any other similar issues I came across this site. Does anyone have any knowledge of this problem being wide spread? What am I in for with an engine replacement?
k2sys
You are going to have a brand new engine
long block is virtually a whole new engine
https://www.autolist.com/guides/short-block-vs-long-block-engine
I would ask for a brand new factory engine!!!!!!!!!!
tell them you want a brand new ford crate engine!! this 100% complete engine
everything is on it!!
plug and play!!
long block is virtually a whole new engine
https://www.autolist.com/guides/short-block-vs-long-block-engine
I would ask for a brand new factory engine!!!!!!!!!!
tell them you want a brand new ford crate engine!! this 100% complete engine
everything is on it!!
plug and play!!
See my on going saga here...https://www.fordescape.org/forum/en.../forum/engine-technical-discussion/112952-2018-fe-25-000-mi-needs-new-coil.html
Scheduled visit to dealer tomarrow. Probably be in the same position as you.
Scheduled visit to dealer tomarrow. Probably be in the same position as you.
How did my dealer find the cause so quickly?
The other posts I have seen with similar misfire issues are saying the dealer tried multiple plug and coil replacements to no avail. The electrical components would seem to be the obvious cause but if the problem keeps coming back then it's a good chance you have this coolant leak issue. Makes me wonder though if my dealer had advanced knowledge of this issue and they determined it was a coolant leak within an hour of me bringing it to them.
The other posts I have seen with similar misfire issues are saying the dealer tried multiple plug and coil replacements to no avail. The electrical components would seem to be the obvious cause but if the problem keeps coming back then it's a good chance you have this coolant leak issue. Makes me wonder though if my dealer had advanced knowledge of this issue and they determined it was a coolant leak within an hour of me bringing it to them.
UPDATE 4/23/2019
Took to the local Ford dealer today....they found coolant contamination in the cylinder....sending it to the "engine" techs to diagnose how severe and if it will be a short/long block replacement, but confirmed it will be a new engine. Also confirmed it was not electrical/ignition. Hope to find out more tomarrow.
Thanks for everybody's input on this! Very much appreciated!!
Took to the local Ford dealer today....they found coolant contamination in the cylinder....sending it to the "engine" techs to diagnose how severe and if it will be a short/long block replacement, but confirmed it will be a new engine. Also confirmed it was not electrical/ignition. Hope to find out more tomarrow.
Thanks for everybody's input on this! Very much appreciated!!
The service idiot is wrong on your replacement engine!!
there is a separate warranty on factory replacement parts!!
there is a separate warranty on factory replacement parts!!
Escape engine issues
Drive the heck out of your new engine until the warranty is up! I guarantee you this will happen again. I now own a 2013 escape 80k miles that was my daughters with the same issues. Always on recall, problem started at 12k miles and was never corrected, now engine knocks. It is currently a grocery grabber until complete engine failure then I will decide what to do. PS, I own this vehicle because I did not want someone else to get stuck with it and then have to spend $6k-8k on a new engine.
Drive the heck out of your new engine until the warranty is up! I guarantee you this will happen again. I now own a 2013 escape 80k miles that was my daughters with the same issues. Always on recall, problem started at 12k miles and was never corrected, now engine knocks. It is currently a grocery grabber until complete engine failure then I will decide what to do. PS, I own this vehicle because I did not want someone else to get stuck with it and then have to spend $6k-8k on a new engine.
Escape engine issues
You hit the nail on the head. Just think 2013-2018 same engine issues! I have many fords that went well over 300-400k miles. My Daughter purchased a new foreign car because of the response she received from Ford. I have always asked my children to buy American but after a $30k hit, that's a tough sell.
You hit the nail on the head. Just think 2013-2018 same engine issues! I have many fords that went well over 300-400k miles. My Daughter purchased a new foreign car because of the response she received from Ford. I have always asked my children to buy American but after a $30k hit, that's a tough sell.
UPDATE: New Engine Installed
UPDATE: So I brought my Escape home today with the new engine installed and so far no issues. Looks very clean under the hood like it's still the factory install. Only time will tell how well this works out. Still planning to unload it before the warranty runs out but will have to hang on to it for some time yet. Service sheet says they used a straight edge on the head and block. Head was within spec but the block was out of spec over .001 in several places around cylinder 2.
UPDATE: So I brought my Escape home today with the new engine installed and so far no issues. Looks very clean under the hood like it's still the factory install. Only time will tell how well this works out. Still planning to unload it before the warranty runs out but will have to hang on to it for some time yet. Service sheet says they used a straight edge on the head and block. Head was within spec but the block was out of spec over .001 in several places around cylinder 2.
The head gasket surface flatness spec for the 1.5L is 0.004" overall and 0.002" in an 8x8" area. The spec is the same for the 2.0L.
The tech noted that the block was 0.001" over specs around cylinder #2 .
Thanks for posting the service invoice. It seems that the pressurized coolant test is the way to go on the diagnosis.
The tech noted that the block was 0.001" over specs around cylinder #2 .
Thanks for posting the service invoice. It seems that the pressurized coolant test is the way to go on the diagnosis.
CEL Flashing
UPDATE: So I've had the car back with the new engine for a few days now and have recently had an issue with the CEL flashing and feeling some shakiness which could mean the engine is misfiring. Pulled over and shut it down. Restarted and the light is reset and running fine again. It's happened twice so far, but the messages in my FordPass account show a third time that I'm not even aware of. I'm not able to find any stored codes so I will be contacting my service rep to see what they want to do about it. Stay tuned if you are interested in how this all plays out.
UPDATE: So I've had the car back with the new engine for a few days now and have recently had an issue with the CEL flashing and feeling some shakiness which could mean the engine is misfiring. Pulled over and shut it down. Restarted and the light is reset and running fine again. It's happened twice so far, but the messages in my FordPass account show a third time that I'm not even aware of. I'm not able to find any stored codes so I will be contacting my service rep to see what they want to do about it. Stay tuned if you are interested in how this all plays out.
Curious if you ever noticed the smell of coolant around the car after it has shut down. My '18 SE with 12k sometimes has given off a little scent of coolant but I haven't investigated it as of yet. My Focus was similar but never exhibited anything other than a crappy transmission which is why it was bought back by Ford and I moved into this new Escape last June.
Wouldn't that be just peachy-keen to go from one lemon to another!
Wouldn't that be just peachy-keen to go from one lemon to another!
k2sys
I hate that you are having problems with your car. We recently bought a new car and purposely avoided the Escape because, we didn’t want to go to the Titanium edition to get the 2.0T. And, I didn’t have confidence in the 1.5 T engine. We ended up with a 2019 VW Tiguan. It’s my wife’s car. I still have the 2017 Escape SE and it’s been flawless mechanically for 35,000 miles.
I hate that you are having problems with your car. We recently bought a new car and purposely avoided the Escape because, we didn’t want to go to the Titanium edition to get the 2.0T. And, I didn’t have confidence in the 1.5 T engine. We ended up with a 2019 VW Tiguan. It’s my wife’s car. I still have the 2017 Escape SE and it’s been flawless mechanically for 35,000 miles.
2017 Ford Escape 1.5 Eco Misfires and Coolant loss.
Hi everyone,
I took my 2017 Ford Escape 1.5 SE to get service a month ago for rough cold starts. Read the code and found out it was misfiring in cylinder 3. Dealership replaced pcv tubing to fix the issue because it was creating a bad vacuum causing the misfire. They also cleaned the valves from the carbon build up. Total repairs 1200 dollars.
Two weeks later same symptoms came back. This time the code read misfire on cylinder 2. Engine light pop on and it would have rough idles when starting up and then would be fine. Schedule another appointment later on the week to get it looked at again. Before I could get it to the shop, I lost all the coolant while driving home from work. The temperature gauge skyrocketed within 30 seconds and all bells went off saying car was over heating. I pull over and stop for minute or two and the temperature gauge goes down to normal. I creep back home only being a mile away as the temperature gauge reads normal. I checked the coolant reservoir under hood and noticed it is bone dry.
Next day I get the car towed to the local dealership for service. The vehicle has 65,000 miles, mostly highway miles from commuting to work. It’s been properly maintained, oil changes every 5,000 thousand, and I had the dealership check the coolant at the last service asking them if I needed to flush replace the coolant. They told me it was not needed at this time and coolant looked good. There’s no warranty on the car since powertrain is at 60,000. I’m really hoping coolant lost was a bad hose and not the dreadful stories I hear about coolant leaking cracking the head on the 1.6s and the engine needing replacement. Does anyone with the same car had this issue? Does anyone have any idea what’s causing the problem? I will hopefully get a update with news later this week when they look at the car.
Hi everyone,
I took my 2017 Ford Escape 1.5 SE to get service a month ago for rough cold starts. Read the code and found out it was misfiring in cylinder 3. Dealership replaced pcv tubing to fix the issue because it was creating a bad vacuum causing the misfire. They also cleaned the valves from the carbon build up. Total repairs 1200 dollars.
Two weeks later same symptoms came back. This time the code read misfire on cylinder 2. Engine light pop on and it would have rough idles when starting up and then would be fine. Schedule another appointment later on the week to get it looked at again. Before I could get it to the shop, I lost all the coolant while driving home from work. The temperature gauge skyrocketed within 30 seconds and all bells went off saying car was over heating. I pull over and stop for minute or two and the temperature gauge goes down to normal. I creep back home only being a mile away as the temperature gauge reads normal. I checked the coolant reservoir under hood and noticed it is bone dry.
Next day I get the car towed to the local dealership for service. The vehicle has 65,000 miles, mostly highway miles from commuting to work. It’s been properly maintained, oil changes every 5,000 thousand, and I had the dealership check the coolant at the last service asking them if I needed to flush replace the coolant. They told me it was not needed at this time and coolant looked good. There’s no warranty on the car since powertrain is at 60,000. I’m really hoping coolant lost was a bad hose and not the dreadful stories I hear about coolant leaking cracking the head on the 1.6s and the engine needing replacement. Does anyone with the same car had this issue? Does anyone have any idea what’s causing the problem? I will hopefully get a update with news later this week when they look at the car.
I really like the Escape but, going to the Titanium trim wasn’t what we wanted to do just for the better engine. We liked the Edge and that was a possibility. With the cost of the Edge being more, we would have to had found a low mileage used 2018. So, it was a used low mileage Edge or another brand all together. Have you noticed that the 1.5 Ecoboost 4 cylinder is going away? Kind of makes you wonder, doesn’t it?
You may want to follow these 2 threads..
https://www.fordescape.org/forum/3g...rum/3g-engine-technical-discussion/112990-2018-escape-misfire-cylinder-2-a.html
https://www.fordescape.org/forum/3g...rum/3g-engine-technical-discussion/112952-2018-fe-25-000-mi-needs-new-coil.html
It's starting to appear that this engine may have problems similar to the 1.6l. Mine is having its engine replaced this week. Its a 2018 with 28,000 miles Coolant leak from a bad block leaked into cyl #1 .
https://www.fordescape.org/forum/3g...rum/3g-engine-technical-discussion/112990-2018-escape-misfire-cylinder-2-a.html
https://www.fordescape.org/forum/3g...rum/3g-engine-technical-discussion/112952-2018-fe-25-000-mi-needs-new-coil.html
It's starting to appear that this engine may have problems similar to the 1.6l. Mine is having its engine replaced this week. Its a 2018 with 28,000 miles Coolant leak from a bad block leaked into cyl #1 .
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