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Greetings,

it has been raining the last few days and when I went to take the car somewhere I noticed that there was water dripping from the drivers side sun visor arm.

I've never used the moon roof but I suspect that might be where it is leaking as the visor is above the windshield.

I'll call the local Ford dealer.


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Greetings,

it has been raining the last few days and when I went to take the car somewhere I noticed that there was water dripping from the drivers side sun visor arm.

I've never used the moon roof but I suspect that might be where it is leaking as the visor is above the windshield.

I'll call the local Ford dealer.


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I merged your thread with this existing thread on the same topic. Have a look at the other posts for some help.
 
New member here. Last August of 2020 I purchased my 2017 Escape Titanium WITH roof rails and NO sun roof built August 2017. On May 3, 2021 I discovered the dreaded leak issue in the rear cargo area by the spare tire. Thankfully my headliner is dry front and back with no water stains. I took the Escape to the dealership today (5/13/21) to learn that the warranty does not cover this problem which I already figured from reading several posts on here. They referred me to a body shop to have it looked at. I went to the body shop and they said they have done this work before and would first drop my headliner and do a water test to see if they can tell where the leak is coming from. I am 99.9% sure it is the roof rails. He said it would cost about $170 to do this. I'm now thinking about trying to just attempt the job myself or asking the body shop how much it would cost to just re-seal the roof rails on both sides without doing the water test. If I do this myself I am going to do both the driver and passenger side even though it is only flooding in from the passenger side. Wish me luck!
 
Good luck, but it is not something I would attempt myself especially if it involves removal and replacement of the headliner to access the roof rails.
I would just bite the bullet and pay the $170 which is quite reasonable in my view. I suppose it would cost extra for them to reseal the rails if that is the problem.
 
To my knowledge you don't have to touch the headliner to remove the roof rails. The body shop only mentioned dropping the headliner to better see where the water is entering during a water test.
 
To my knowledge you don't have to touch the headliner to remove the roof rails. The body shop only mentioned dropping the headliner to better see where the water is entering during a water test.
There are posts on this forum where have removed and resealed those leaking roof rails. I suggest you "google" it. Good luck :)
 
This past Tuesday I took off both roof rack rails and sealed them with Permatex Ultra Black RTV silicone as seen in a YouTube video. On Thursday it rained all day. I checked it this morning hoping there would be no water. Much to my displeasure there was a puddle in my spare tire well again! What is interesting this time is that the jute insulation on the passenger side at the bottom didn't really feel wet. There was a post about some body seam that you can only see with the rear bumper off or something along those lines. This just really sucks.
 
I did the garden hose water test today on my 2017 Escape. While running water by the back part of the roof rail, water started to flood in thru the vent above the fuse box. We also ran the hose on the rear divers' side and had water drip down below the speaker behind the side panel. This is almost a week after I took both my roof rails off and used Permatex to seal all the screw hole areas. This proves that the combination of having a seam in the roof ditch along with using a crappy sealant is the problem. Thank you Ford! 😡

I'm thinking my next step might be to go to a body shop and ask them if they have done this work before on an Escape and had success in keeping the water out after their fix. I would also ask them of course how much it would cost to do the job to determine if I want to go this route or not. I'll give an update when I have one as I know I am not the only one who has had this problem.
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Well...I took my Escape to the body shop this morning to get an estimate on how much it will cost to fix the water leaking into my spare tire well. They said they would do a water test first to determine the point of intrusion, (which I already know) then they would seal it with 3M Urethane Seam Sealer and do another water test after that. The estimated price is...$900 and of course I know it could be higher than that. I took it to another shop to get a second estimate and they told me I would probably be looking at over $1,000. This second shop said I would be better off taking it to a small body shop that could do it for half the price but the only thing is those shops are far and few between. I can't live with it like it is. I am covering it up with a tarp in my driveway every time it rains.

***I posted this same update on the Ford Escape Owners group on facebook and most of the guys there said for me to fix it myself. I just need to buy an automotive seam sealer to go along with the Permatex and hopefully I'll get the damn water to stop flooding in. Now I just have to wait for this 90+ degree weather to go away so I can make another attempt at this.
 
I took my roof rails off today and the weather stripping that goes in between the rail feet. I used a 3M seam sealer to seal all four areas where the screws are (front and back). Now I just have to wait 24 hours for it to dry then put it all back together and pray the water stays out!
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So after sealing the roof ditch hole areas with 3M seam sealer (which did help to some degree) I still have water coming into the very back corners. I pulled off the top corner plastic panels to get a better view of the water coming in. On the passenger side two wires are attached to a metal piece and then screwed into the D post. It is here where water floods in (as shown in the picture with the blue dots to simulate water). On the drivers' side it is pouring in thru an opening where the clip for the beige colored plastic molding pushes into the D post.

***I again posted this update on the Ford Escape Owners group on facebook and got a few replies. The best reply I got which I think is the most likely possibility is that I need to take the roof rails off yet again and add silicone to the screw holes. I can't believe it is taking this much sealant just to keep the water out. This is enough to drive a man crazy!
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Inspect your roof ditch the entire length. Any cracks in it need to be repaired.
I did look it over good when I had everything off. There were no signs of cracking in the mid section of the roof. I did pry off loose mastic by the screw holes before I applied the 3M seam sealer.
 
The best reply I got which I think is the most likely possibility is that I need to take the roof rails off yet again and add silicone to the screw holes.
There's sealant called Butyl Mastic which is used on older vehicle windscreen seals - before they started bonding them to the vehicle body. It forms a skin on the outside but stays "fluid" under the surface. That way it copes well with movement that would cause a sealant to break. It would work well for thing like the bolts. Be warned it's very messy to use.
 
UPDATE: About a week and a half ago I took both roof rails off once again. I used Permatex Ultra Black sealer with the nozzle screwed on to the tube so I could get it down into the screw holes better. I also applied a decent amount around the screw hole areas as well for good measure. Fast forward a few days and we finally got some rain here in Minnesota. I checked the back after the rain and was pleasantly surprised to find the rear passenger side was bone dry. That side has had the most water flooding in. However...the drivers' side was wet just behind the side panel. I am done working on it. I am just going to live with it until I find something different. They said on the news last night that used car prices are going to start coming down soon. I have been looking at the Mazda CX-5 as that is the most similar SUV out there to the Escape.
 
FINAL UPDATE: The Escape is gone. I traded it in yesterday on a 2018 Mazda CX-5 Touring AWD with only 15,150 miles on it. The sticker price was $25,000 which I didn't think was too bad. They gave me $20,000 for my Escape. I would have liked them to give me closer to 22k but with all I've been through I just wanted to be done with it.
 
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