Edit to my question. Did you do the manual BMS reset for this ? ie, car in accessory mode, high beam stalk x5, then press brake pedal 3x, then wait for the battery light on dash to flash? I watched them do this when they FINALLY replaced my stock 12 volt battery at the dealer. (yeah I am one of those who has their nose all up in the techs doings, it also helps I know all the techs from my son working at that dealer previously), they attempted to do it with their fancy computer and it wouldn't work so they did it manually after trying for 30 mins with the computer. Thanks! Your video is very helpful and once in budget I will replace with the AGM battery.
2020 Ford Escape Hybrid - replace 12 volt battery with larger Group 48 AGM
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finally, someone else with Forscan
. My screen with the 125% looks just like yours.2020 Escape Titanium Hybrid.
my first small battery went from new to 6/22 before leaving us stone dead. dealer replaced it no questions asked (they know there is a problem)
now at 12/31/22 it was stone dead after setting for just 2 days.
System charges correct.I don't see voltage going over 14.5 or so max.
today when we found it dead I jumped it, than charging it to 100% but that did not take more than 1/2 hour from 0% to 100% with only 15a charger. to me this is an indicator that the battery is bad again.
I will call the dealer after this weekend holiday. I would unload it but the 2023's are not out yet (new body style) and only thing dealer is showing in stock is Plugin's, no way they are worth what they are charging for them
so maybe another warranty battery. (or spend $250 and put my own in).
I see your battery type shows the larger one, did you change that yourself with forscan? did you change both lines?
is there a battery reset in forscan?
Thanks.
To continue this thread, somewhere I thought I read that in 2021 they switched new production to the bigger battery?
But when I look in the Ford parts books its still calls for the smaller battery for the 2021 hybrid.
But if you look in most of the aftermarket they show the larger battery, which is stock for all the ICE escapes I think.
anyway, I made the first appt date that the dealer had which is mid January.
I found SSM 49574 which says for build date 6/9/2020 and mine was built in 6/09 so let them look at it.
Plus that recall about engine fires where they take out some loves in the grill?
But when I look in the Ford parts books its still calls for the smaller battery for the 2021 hybrid.
But if you look in most of the aftermarket they show the larger battery, which is stock for all the ICE escapes I think.
anyway, I made the first appt date that the dealer had which is mid January.
I found SSM 49574 which says for build date 6/9/2020 and mine was built in 6/09 so let them look at it.
Plus that recall about engine fires
where they take out some loves in the grill?
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We've been having issues the last few weeks with our AGM swapped Escape. No deep sleep issues, just sometimes after driving and turning off the car everything goes off before even opening the door and it won't start back up for a few minutes. Noticed on the app we had some messages with issues. We have been using remote start more due to winter. I scheduled the earliest service appointment I could and it's two weeks away. In the mean time I busted out Forscan again and decided to
change the StateOfCharge from 80% to 90% in hopes that prevents more issues. If all is well we'll probably cancel the service appointment.
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change the StateOfCharge from 80% to 90% in hopes that prevents more issues. If all is well we'll probably cancel the service appointment.
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what does AGM swapped mean?
what year is your escape?
Trying to figure out why you see Battery target State Of Charge set to 80% when myself and KirillFordEscape see 125%
what year is your escape?
Trying to figure out why you see Battery target State Of Charge set to 80% when myself and KirillFordEscape see 125%
I'd assume they mean they swapped from the smaller stock lead acid to larger AGM battery.
Not sure why you'd want to try charging past 100% SoC. Unless it wasn't configured right to begin with. Say set for 80Ah, but you have a 100Ah battery, so it's fine to put in 125% of 80Ah (1.25*80=100).
Not sure why you'd want to try charging past 100% SoC. Unless it wasn't configured right to begin with. Say set for 80Ah, but you have a 100Ah battery, so it's fine to put in 125% of 80Ah (1.25*80=100).
I am going to say this is unrelated and you should get it back to dealer. The SOC is set by the vehicle. I would not edit directly. You can edit battery type if wrong. Keep us posted. HV is the big battery not the AGM. Glad to hear your deep sleep is gone.
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Was hoping it was related somehow. I just want this car to disappear. We're going to have the dealer check it out and hopefully they can figure it out. So many issues with this car. Never buy a first model year refresh.
I know what you mean on first model year. Mrs. want to try a '23 Pilot to replace her '12. All new V6 kind of makes me nervous.
Good battery really seems to help these things with electronic mysteries. Forscan can be helpful but can be a double edged sword. My '16 had a wiring harness rub that correcting really really sorted out mysteries.
Good battery really seems to help these things with electronic mysteries. Forscan can be helpful but can be a double edged sword. My '16 had a wiring harness rub that correcting really really sorted out mysteries.
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We went almost a year I think without any issues after swapping over to AGM. Just recently it started to happen. We thought maybe because we were remote starting more often because of the cold but I'd think it would just go into deep sleep and not just freak out like it is.
My battery state of charge was set to 125% by factory on our 2020. I have Forscan for my truck, but never used it to make changes on the escape.
and our current escape battery is my 2nd one, and its the smaller one, and it went 12 months before we started experiencing the problem.
And I see the 2023's are on the order site now, but no way are they worth 40K it would cost to replace our Titanium. Ford has gone crazy with prices.
I was going to order a 2023 F150, but I found a 2022 that someone has special odered and did not purchase. To special order that same truck in a 2023 the price was $8000 more!
and our current escape battery is my 2nd one, and its the smaller one, and it went 12 months before we started experiencing the problem.
And I see the 2023's are on the order site now, but no way are they worth 40K it would cost to replace our Titanium. Ford has gone crazy with prices.
I was going to order a 2023 F150, but I found a 2022 that someone has special odered and did not purchase. To special order that same truck in a 2023 the price was $8000 more!
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Yeah the SOC was 120% when I got on Forscan after the battery was installed last year so I changed that to 80%. I read AGM batteries don't like being overcharged. We haven't had any issues for a year so like someone else said, it's probably not the 12v battery that's the issue. I told my wife let's just get it fixed and trade in for a gas version so there's less headache. 14k miles in 3 years, we definitely don't need hybrid.
its like something is sticking ON and draining the battery 100% dead, it will have like 0 volts when it happens. its so low my charger assumes its a 6V battery and will not charge it correct unless I jump it first to get the voltage to rise first.
now on my truck it sits even more. sometimes 7 days in a row. I have changed that battery charge from 80 to 95% and it never sends me the asleep message.
But I never had need to mess with the escape because it gets driven every day or 2.
now on my truck it sits even more. sometimes 7 days in a row. I have changed that battery charge from 80 to 95% and it never sends me the asleep message.
But I never had need to mess with the escape because it gets driven every day or 2.
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Yeah they definitely have battery issues they need to resolve. Just replacing for the same battery and having deep sleep a few weeks later again isn't a solution. Hence the swap to AGM.
If I am not mistaking, the HV battery starts the car and the 12V battery just controls the relay that applies the HV battery to starter system.
Maybe this design would be better with a deep cycle battery over a lead acid.
The battery is dying and has no capacity left, just like what happens if you put a regular car battery into an RV where it is constandly discharged, and recharged.
Maybe this design would be better with a deep cycle battery over a lead acid.
The battery is dying and has no capacity left, just like what happens if you put a regular car battery into an RV where it is constandly discharged, and recharged.
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Update
I'm a big dumb idiot. I checked the connections on the battery before and thought it looked fine. Come to find out, it was halfway off the post and loose. Most likely because the AGM battery wasn't meant for that battery holder the 2020 hybrid came with, that it moved around in turns and bumps to the point where it loosened the positive cable. So I tightened it down pretty well and the issue should be fixed now. I took some cardboard and shimmed the front of the battery under the battery strap and on top on the middle I added some as well. Shouldn't move around much anymore.
I'm a big dumb idiot. I checked the connections on the battery before and thought it looked fine. Come to find out, it was halfway off the post and loose. Most likely because the AGM battery wasn't meant for that battery holder the 2020 hybrid came with, that it moved around in turns and bumps to the point where it loosened the positive cable. So I tightened it down pretty well and the issue should be fixed now. I took some cardboard and shimmed the front of the battery under the battery strap and on top on the middle I added some as well. Shouldn't move around much anymore.
Thanks for the follow-up...some people don't bother. I updated to the AGM a few months ago and I've not seen any issues.
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Could be. I'll have to check, but I believe the AGM battery is a different size than the sealed lead acid one.
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